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Re: Unpatriotic Draftdodgers

Posted By: Darien, on host 141.154.183.15
Date: Thursday, July 13, 2006, at 14:16:36
In Reply To: Re: Unpatriotic Draftdodgers posted by Chrysanthemum on Thursday, July 13, 2006, at 13:40:18:

> The thing you're missing is that this whole thing about being in Iraq to promote freedom or democracy or find WMDs or whatever is political rhetoric to make a war that was really started for selfish reasons (I'm still trying to decide whether it was just as revenge for Saddam trying to assassinate Bush Sr (or whatever), for the sake of oil, because our president is a scared man who feels the need to lash out when he's frightened, or some combination) palatable to the American public, the majority of whom unfortunately don't have the critical thinking skills to see the lies we're being told on a daily basis.

Just out of curiosity. You have any evidence for this, or are you just assuming? The fact that you say you're "still trying to decide" what the REAL reason is definitely implies that you've basically made all this up. If you haven't, that's great. Now please supply your evidence.

If this whole war is just for oil, where is all the oil? Please, tell me what happened to it, because I'm paying about twice as much for all petroleum products as I was beforehand, which certainly doesn't imply that we plundered oil from anybody. If it's just "revenge" on Saddam or because President Bush is "afraid" of him, then please explain why we still have troops there. Saddam, in case you haven't heard, was captured a few years back. If our whole goal was to "get" him, well, he's been gotten.

The theory that the United States went into Iraq to liberate it from a dictator and build a better society and a better life for the Iraqi people is the only one that fits the facts. Argue with our success or with our right to interfere in the first place, but please abandon the cynical conspiracy theories.

Replies To This Message

Re: Unpatriotic Draftdodgers - Jazzy Jeff and the Belmont Seven - Thu, 7/20/2006, 00:49:49
- Re: Unpatriotic Draftdodgers - wintermute - Thu, 7/20/2006, 06:52:11
Re: Unpatriotic Draftdodgers - Chrysanthemum - Thu, 7/13/2006, 23:42:25
- Re: Unpatriotic Draftdodgers - Sam - Fri, 7/14/2006, 10:24:17
  - Re: Unpatriotic Draftdodgers - wintermute - Sat, 7/15/2006, 10:17:39
    - Re: Unpatriotic Draftdodgers - Stephen - Sat, 7/15/2006, 13:49:32
      - Re: Unpatriotic Draftdodgers - Howard - Sun, 7/16/2006, 10:14:58
        
        Re: Muslim world - Carrie - Sun, 7/16/2006, 22:30:17
        
        Re: Muslim world - Howard - Mon, 7/17/2006, 11:57:22
        
        Re: Unpatriotic Draftdodgers - Stephen - Sun, 7/16/2006, 11:05:09
        
        Re: Unpatriotic Draftdodgers - Howard - Sun, 7/16/2006, 20:01:46
        
        Re: Unpatriotic Draftdodgers - Stephen - Sun, 7/16/2006, 22:13:36
        
        Re: Unpatriotic Draftdodgers - Howard - Mon, 7/17/2006, 11:52:03
        
        Re: Unpatriotic Draftdodgers - Sam - Mon, 7/17/2006, 08:39:20
        
        Re: Unpatriotic Draftdodgers - Stephen - Mon, 7/17/2006, 10:08:36
        
        Re: Unpatriotic Draftdodgers - Sam - Mon, 7/17/2006, 11:18:29
        
        Re: Unpatriotic Draftdodgers - Dave - Mon, 7/17/2006, 14:55:35
        
        Re: Unpatriotic Draftdodgers - Howard - Mon, 7/17/2006, 13:09:44
        
        Re: Unpatriotic Draftdodgers - daniel78 - Sun, 7/16/2006, 22:37:47
        
        Lighten Up? (was idiotic ranting) - Darien - Mon, 7/17/2006, 01:01:19
        
        Re: Lighten Up? (was idiotic ranting) - Howard - Mon, 7/17/2006, 12:04:05
        
        Lighten Up? (was Unpatriotic Draftdodgers) - Stephen - Sun, 7/16/2006, 23:43:47
        
        Re: Lighten Up? (was Unpatriotic Draftdodgers) - Howard - Mon, 7/17/2006, 12:06:59
        
        Re: Lighten Up? (was Unpatriotic Draftdodgers) - Stephen - Tue, 7/18/2006, 00:14:23
        
        Re: Lighten Up? (was Unpatriotic Draftdodgers) - Howard - Tue, 7/18/2006, 11:26:55
        
        Re: Lighten Up? (was Unpatriotic Draftdodgers) - Darien - Tue, 7/18/2006, 02:56:32
        
        Re: Lighten Up? (was Unpatriotic Draftdodgers) - Darien - Tue, 7/18/2006, 02:58:33
        
        Re: Lighten Up? (was Unpatriotic Draftdodgers) - Chrysanthemum - Tue, 7/18/2006, 13:34:26
        
        Re: Lighten Up? (was Unpatriotic Draftdodgers) - Stephen - Tue, 7/18/2006, 00:17:01
        
        Re: Lighten Up? (was Unpatriotic Draftdodgers) - Howard - Tue, 7/18/2006, 11:28:19
  - Re: Unpatriotic Draftdodgers - gremlinn - Fri, 7/14/2006, 15:49:09
- Re: Unpatriotic Draftdodgers - Darien - Fri, 7/14/2006, 00:30:18
  - Re: Unpatriotic Draftdodgers - Stephen - Sat, 7/15/2006, 09:48:12
    - Re: Unpatriotic Draftdodgers/new subject needed - Howard - Sat, 7/15/2006, 12:57:41
      - Re: Unpatriotic Draftdodgers/new subject needed - Stephen - Sat, 7/15/2006, 14:14:08
        
        Re: Unpatriotic Draftdodgers/new subject needed - Darien - Sat, 7/15/2006, 23:11:11
        
        Re: Unpatriotic Draftdodgers/new subject needed - Howard - Sun, 7/16/2006, 10:19:09
        
        Re: Unpatriotic Draftdodgers/new subject needed - wintermute - Sun, 7/16/2006, 08:35:44
        
        Re: Unpatriotic Draftdodgers/new subject needed - Darien - Mon, 7/17/2006, 00:24:42
        
        C'est un petit monde, après tous... - Nyperold - Mon, 7/17/2006, 12:55:14
  - Re: Unpatriotic Draftdodgers - Chrysanthemum - Fri, 7/14/2006, 20:40:16
    - Re: Unpatriotic Draftdodgers - Darien - Sat, 7/15/2006, 01:54:58
      - Re: Unpatriotic Draftdodgers - Chrysanthemum - Sun, 7/16/2006, 01:26:43
        
        Re: Unpatriotic Draftdodgers - Darien - Mon, 7/17/2006, 01:10:51
        
        Re: Unpatriotic Draftdodgers - Chrysanthemum - Mon, 7/17/2006, 22:48:56
        
        Re: Unpatriotic Draftdodgers - Stephen - Tue, 7/18/2006, 00:05:56
    - Re: Unpatriotic Draftdodgers - Howard - Fri, 7/14/2006, 20:58:18

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Message:	> > The thing you're missing is that this whole thing about being in Iraq to promote freedom or democracy or find WMDs or whatever is political rhetoric to make a war that was really started for selfish reasons (I'm still trying to decide whether it was just as revenge for Saddam trying to assassinate Bush Sr (or whatever), for the sake of oil, because our president is a scared man who feels the need to lash out when he's frightened, or some combination) palatable to the American public, the majority of whom unfortunately don't have the critical thinking skills to see the lies we're being told on a daily basis. > > Just out of curiosity. You have any evidence for this, or are you just assuming? The fact that you say you're "still trying to decide" what the REAL reason is definitely implies that you've basically made all this up. If you haven't, that's great. Now please supply your evidence. > > If this whole war is just for oil, where is all the oil? Please, tell me what happened to it, because I'm paying about twice as much for all petroleum products as I was beforehand, which certainly doesn't imply that we plundered oil from anybody. If it's just "revenge" on Saddam or because President Bush is "afraid" of him, then please explain why we still have troops there. Saddam, in case you haven't heard, was captured a few years back. If our whole goal was to "get" him, well, he's been gotten. > > The theory that the United States went into Iraq to liberate it from a dictator and build a better society and a better life for the Iraqi people is the only one that fits the facts. Argue with our success or with our right to interfere in the first place, but please abandon the cynical conspiracy theories.
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