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Re: Sheikh Maktoum is dead.

Posted By: Lirelyn, on host 70.187.248.131
Date: Friday, January 6, 2006, at 11:12:10
In Reply To: Re: Sheikh Maktoum is dead. posted by wintermute on Friday, January 6, 2006, at 09:37:41:

> > > An excerpt from the link:
> > >
> > > 'I didn't cry like this when my son died'
> > > DUBAI -- Moideen had never cried in his life like he did
yesterday. He still can't believe the passing away of his beloved
master His Highness Shaikh Maktoum bin Rashid Al Maktoum,
Vice-President and Prime Minister of the UAE and Ruler of Dubai.
> > >
> > > That's just wrong.
> >
> > In what way is that wrong? I don't see it.
>
> Yeah, I agree. I mean, I'm pretty sure there were people who
cried when Kennedy died. There were certainly a lot of people in
Britain who cried when Princess Diana died.
>
> National leaders are public figures, and it's very easy for
people to think that they know these people intimately. And
when someone you know intimately dies, then it's natural to feel
strong emotions.
>
> wintermute

Added to that, there is a sense of uncertainty or instability. When
a friend or relative dies, you lose a beloved part of your life--
when a loved and trusted national leader dies, you also lose a
stabilizing figure in your society. It's a political calamity as well
as a personal one, and comes with all the anxieties of a political
calamity.

If, as I suspect, zK was chiefly disturbed by the man's saying he
hadn't cried as much when his son died... well I don't know. But I
would suspect that this kind of anxiety would have something to
do with that. Also, how much someone cries is not necessarily a
measure of how much grief they feel.

I personally couldn't imagine getting more upset over the death
of a public figure than over the death of someone I knew
personally... but I can see how someone might.

Replies To This Message

Re: Sheikh Maktoum is dead. - TOM - Sat, 1/7/2006, 01:37:02
- Re: Sheikh Maktoum is dead. - Darien - Tue, 1/10/2006, 12:53:48
Re: Sheikh Maktoum is dead. - e1minsterz - Fri, 1/6/2006, 11:22:26
- Re: Sheikh Maktoum is dead. - e1minsterz - Fri, 1/6/2006, 11:27:27
  - Re: Sheikh Maktoum is dead. - Chrysanthemum - Fri, 1/6/2006, 11:40:15
    - Re: Sheikh Maktoum is dead. - e1minsterz - Fri, 1/6/2006, 12:01:42
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        Re: Sheikh Maktoum is dead. - e1minsterz - Fri, 1/6/2006, 12:35:17
        
        Re: Sheikh Maktoum is dead. - Darien - Fri, 1/6/2006, 14:28:22
        
        Re: Sheikh Maktoum is dead. - e1minsterz - Fri, 1/6/2006, 14:32:11
        
        Re: Sheikh Maktoum is dead. - Sam - Mon, 1/9/2006, 23:20:38
        
        Re: Sheikh Maktoum is dead. - Darien - Tue, 1/10/2006, 01:10:10
        
        Re: Sheikh Maktoum is dead. - Nyperold - Fri, 1/6/2006, 17:33:53
        
        Re: Sheikh Maktoum is dead. - wintermute - Fri, 1/6/2006, 14:38:46
        
        Re: Sheikh Maktoum is dead. - e1minsterz - Fri, 1/6/2006, 14:35:24
        
        Re: Sheikh Maktoum is dead. - wintermute - Mon, 1/9/2006, 12:14:38
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Message:	> > > > An excerpt from the link: > > > > > > > > 'I didn't cry like this when my son died' > > > > DUBAI -- Moideen had never cried in his life like he did > yesterday. He still can't believe the passing away of his beloved > master His Highness Shaikh Maktoum bin Rashid Al Maktoum, > Vice-President and Prime Minister of the UAE and Ruler of Dubai. > > > > > > > > That's just wrong. > > > > > > In what way is that wrong? I don't see it. > > > > Yeah, I agree. I mean, I'm pretty sure there were people who > cried when Kennedy died. There were certainly a lot of people in > Britain who cried when Princess Diana died. > > > > National leaders are public figures, and it's very easy for > people to think that they know these people intimately. And > when someone you know intimately dies, then it's natural to feel > strong emotions. > > > > wintermute > > Added to that, there is a sense of uncertainty or instability. When > a friend or relative dies, you lose a beloved part of your life-- > when a loved and trusted national leader dies, you also lose a > stabilizing figure in your society. It's a political calamity as well > as a personal one, and comes with all the anxieties of a political > calamity. > > If, as I suspect, zK was chiefly disturbed by the man's saying he > hadn't cried as much when his son died... well I don't know. But I > would suspect that this kind of anxiety would have something to > do with that. Also, how much someone cries is not necessarily a > measure of how much grief they feel. > > I personally couldn't imagine getting more upset over the death > of a public figure than over the death of someone I knew > personally... but I can see how someone might.
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