> What I think sounds uneducated today is when someone says "We had dinner with he and and his wife last night." Is this somehow now correct or am I just nitpicking? I had really good English teachers in high school and they would have corrected me for such bad grammar! And my Dad used to tell me to go plug the *card* in the wall outlet. But I suppose I had to overlook that!
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> Calvin

Not even remotely right. The test is what the pronoun would be without the "and [the other person]." Hence, "We had dinner with him and his wife," but also "He and his wife had dinner with us." Otherwise intelligent people I know do the same thing with "I" (as in "He took Maria and I to dinner" -- NO NO NO) and it drives me bonkers.

But I don't get the card thing at all.

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