>>>Those quotes actually make me think more highly of Pat Buchanan than I had before. Homosexuality is a touchy subject these days, because it's not politically correct to be anything other than wholly accepting; if you're not, you're pigeonholed as a hateful bigot -- and there certainly ARE plenty of those around, too. I'm not sure Buchanan isn't still going too far. By my personal beliefs, homosexualITY is wrong; homosexUALS are people, no better or worse than anybody else. I denounce the lifestyle but do not condemn those who live it. If I were to give in to social tides and be lax about my ideas of homosexuality, I couldn't look myself in the mirror and fool myself into thinking I was holding to tenets I accepted when I gave my life to Christ. Yet if I held prejudices or spite for homosexuals, or judge them as people, or were in any way less loving of them as anyone else, just as Christ surely does too, then I would arguably be even worse off and certainly no better.>>>


Exactly where do the tenets of Christianity condemn homosexuals? I've heard people quote the passage from Leviticus that states "a man shall not lie with another man" (may not be the exact wording, that was from memory), but I have heard numerous, and far more convincing, arguments that seem to show that homosexuality is not the abomination to God that some people make it out to be. I know there are a lot people in this forum that are well-versed in the Bible, so please tell me once and for all...where does the Bible condemn homosexuality?? Keep in mind, if the sole reason for this is Leviticus, then you'd have to condemn people who eat pork as much as you condemn homosexuals.

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> So my stance on gay-related laws are determined by whether the laws are about the people or about the lifestyle. Do I support gays in the military? I can't think of a good reason not to.* Do I support state-recognized same-sex marriages? No. Gay rights? Sure. Special rights for gays only? No.
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> The other quotes I'm more confident about agreeing with him on. Affirmative action is a short term solution that (1) infringes on personal rights, and (2) aggravates the root of the problem by increasing racial friction, thus making a long-term solution more difficult.
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> All learn English? Absolutely. I wouldn't think of moving to France and not learning French; to Spain and not learning Spanish; to any other country in the world and not learning the native tongue. People who want to come here and reap the benefits of this country but express utter disdain for learning the local language utterly disgust me.


I agree. I'm signing up for Navajo language classes tomorrow. ;-)


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