| Re: what's "regular joes"uselessness, on host 207.203.212.2 Monday, February 9, 2004, at 09:59:49
 Re: what's "regular joes" posted by Howard on Monday, February 9, 2004, at 07:21:52:
 Usage would be something like "Fred was a burger flipper at McDonald's, a regular Joe who thought he had nothing to
 offer the world" or "Bill Gates was just a regular Joe until he
 launched Microsoft, a move that would change his life
 forever." Usually the term "average Joe" is used in reference
 to one person in particular, to explain that he is nothing
 special -- but you wouldn't often hear of an anonymous
 person described as an average Joe. For example, I've never
 heard "I bumped into an average Joe while walking down
 the sidewalk." There's usually a specific person in mind
 when using the phrase.
 
 Also, the term is always male. I don't think women can be
 average Joes, but the name Jane may be substituted for
 similar effect (though less common).
 
 > Used this way, joe and guy are not proper nouns.
 
 At first I was going to disagree and say that Joe is a
 person's name and thus should be capitalized regardless of
 this usage. However, I then remembered that Guy is also a
 person's name, but the word "guys" is so common now as
 an improper noun that I suppose "joe" could be also used in
 the same way. I just capitalize it out of habit, and because
 this usage is not yet as common as the word "guy," which
 has been around for pretty much forever. Case in point, Joe
 is still a very common first name, but one does not
 encounter people named Guy very often anymore. The
 lowercased term "guy," casually meaning "man," has made
 its way into the vernacular, as I think "Joe" is in the process
 of doing -- but it's not completely there, yet.
 
 Additionally, I have heard the reciprocal "Joe Average" used
 as a random full name when describing nonexistant people.
 Sort of like "John Doe" or "Joe Schmo." This would
 commonly be used when creating a theoretical situation
 with which to make general assumptions. For example, in
 my microeconomics class, my professor said something
 like "Suppose Joe Average goes to Wal-Mart and buys a
 dozen boxes of cereal." We know that Joe Average is not a
 real person, but he is used to put a name on a fictional
 everyman character for the sake of constructing an
 example. Very colloquial, I should add.
 
 -useless"just two cents from the man on the street"ness
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