>If God is infipotent (our original assumption), then He's above logic and above the rules that we think govern our reality. Remember that logic is only what our little brains can comprehend.

>So what if our brains, locked into the confines of logic, can't comprehend it? Here it is, in front of our noses. This is the point where logic falls, and mortals must realize how pathetic their attempts to understand higher powers really are.
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So God chooses to operate within the rules of logic -- not because He must, but because He chooses to. Just because He has infinite power doesn't mean that He uses all of it. God's a lot smarter than to go around creating paradoxes and ubergods on a whim. Otherwise we'd all be in trouble.
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I don't agree. The rules of logic are not simply rules made by humans, nor are they representative of our inherent finiteness. The rules of logic define what is possible, if only because logical contradictions are simply nonsense, and not really actualities that have any important meaning.

To say that God can defy rules of logic is to say that God can do nonsense. Things are not inherently possible simply because the words "God can" come before them in a sentence. Take, for example, the most fundamental logical rule, the law of non-contradiction. X cannot be and not be at once, or, more formally, there is no possible world in which x has the existential quantifier and does not have the existential quantifier simultaneously.

If one really believes that God has the power to do that which is logically impossible, it would be best to start here. But to even think of a thing both being and not being at once is to reject the notion. This cannot be because of our limited intellects, either, for we all clearly understand what it is to exist, and what it is not to exist (or rather, what the absence of a thing is). To apply both the existence and absence of an object is simply nonsense. And it is no fault against God, or omnipotence, that it does not include the ability to do nonsense.

As valid as your points are about the limitedness of human intellectual capacity, and God's love as the motive for His actions, I can't see how, or why, you would want to include logic-breaking capacities in God's omnipotence.


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