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Re: The Universe and the existance of life
Posted By: uselessness, on host 65.33.241.215
Date: Thursday, April 24, 2003, at 17:51:57
In Reply To: Re: The Universe and the existance of life posted by Matthew on Thursday, April 24, 2003, at 14:39:28:

> Question: Can God create a being more powerful than himself?
>
> Assume God is infipotent. Now, his infipotence means that there is no X which he cannot do. So there can be no being that can do some X that he cannot, and so there can be no more powerful being. God can't create one, and so here is something which God can't do. Therefore he's not infipotent.

Hold up. You're providing the logical argument -- that God can't make a more powerful being than Himself -- BEFORE He even gets the chance to try it! If God is infipotent (our original assumption), then He's above logic and above the rules that we think govern our reality. Remember that logic is only what our little brains can comprehend. An infipotent God can easily do something illogical, but that doesn't make it not *real*. So let's actually give our infipotent God the opportunity to create this being before we dismiss the possibility as illogical (or impossible).

Suppose that God does create a being more powerful than Himself. POOF! Now there's this better-than-God being, we'll call it an "ubergod" for the sake of this example. Scientists and philosophers come from miles around to marvel at this ubergod that's more powerful than the infipotent God. How can this be? Nobody can comprehend the ubergod's very existance. It's illogical! Yet just the same, here is the ubergod, who frankly doesn't give a darn if people can understand his existance or not. Despite the paradox, reality reigns. So what if our brains, locked into the confines of logic, can't comprehend it? Here it is, in front of our noses. This is the point where logic falls, and mortals must realize how pathetic their attempts to understand higher powers really are.

Of course, we don't see this in real life. Why? Not only is God omnipotent (or "infipotent," if you will), but He's also omniscient... and benevolent. He knows that creating a being higher than Himself would be an incredibly stupid thing to do. He knows that creating logical paradoxes would be a dangerous, and rather mean, thing to do to His people, who He loves. So God chooses to operate within the rules of logic -- not because He must, but because He chooses to. Just because He has infinite power doesn't mean that He uses all of it. God's a lot smarter than to go around creating paradoxes and ubergods on a whim. Otherwise we'd all be in trouble.

-useless"By the way... hey, Matthew!"ness

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