> > But still, no matter how much you try to get around it, you just can't deny that no matter what, John *had* to choose B, if only for the simple fact that God knew John would choose B and God has perfect knowledge.
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> All I want to know is where you're making the connection between John's choice and God's influence.
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> This isn't the best anaolgy, but I'll still state it: You might know that if someone goes down a certain road, they'll hit a dead end. But you didn't actually make the person go down that road, did you?
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> I've seen many people say, "Because God KNOWS that this will happen, then He is CAUSING it to happen," and I just don't see the connection.
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> You're right, though: God knows John will choose B; therefore, John will choose B. But that isn't saying that John chose B in any way because of God's influence, coercing, "divine intervention," brainwashing, or what have you. John *still had that choice* -- all God had was the knowledge.
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> Ri "finding this fascinating as well" a

And before you answer and say you didn't make this connection, I apologize if I misinterpreted -- but it is still a question I've long pondered.

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