> The other thing it reminds me of is how fun it is, in some games, when the characters are AWARE that they are in a game. The prime example I can find of this is LucasArts Monkey Island series. The main character, Guybrush, is very aware that he's in a game, and will sometimes complain about it or make mention of the fact, or talk right to you, the player, thereby confounding the innocent bystanders who don't know they're in a game. :) Good fun, that is.

MGS contains much of that as well...who can forget Ocelot calmly telling you to 'press the O button repeatedly to regain your strength. Don't think about using autofire or I'll know.' Or the superb scene in which Mantis 'reads your mind' and tells you your interests from the Konami game saves on the memory card. And then, if you can't figure out how to stop him reading your mind, Campbell rings up YELLING 'Plug the controller into Controller Port 2!!! He won't be able to read your mind!!!'

Zarn"completed MGS w'both endings"iwoop


PS: Ocelot doesn't know if you use autofire.