> Well, bright and early Friday morning Jacqueline and I will be driving a van full of eight kids in their early teens to a weekend retreat in Pennsylvania, an annual event put together by our church denomination.

Hmm... not to seem terribly nosy, but I have a friend whose church also does an annual "church camp" in Pennsylvania. Is it the same event?

At any rate, good luck with the little beasties. Patience, my friend, is the most difficult of virtues. :-}

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