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> > I definitely have my viewpoints on the hot issues (haven't posted much on this site, though. Fairly new to the forum but not Rinkworks.) but dislike listening to debates about them because people often refuse to listen to both side's arguments and they turn into a never ending session with no winner. I went to a debate in college about whether God existed or not. I felt like it was a huge waste of my time. Neither side was willing to concede ANYTHING and I felt that very few people would have their opinion changed. Fence sitters would probably stay there and opinions would only be strengthened, not changed or pondered. I can't say that this would be the case for 100% of the people there, though.
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> > I prefer discussing with someone what my points are and what their points are. If my beliefs are well founded and presented clearly, well, that is the best way to affect someone.
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> That's something about which I've wondered. Does it really make sense to attempt to persuade someone else you're right (even, or especially, if you are) when you yourself have made up your mind to ignore that other side? I don't think it does; I guess it's hypocrisy, since you're telling someone to do something you won't do.
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> By the way and to prevent misinterpretation, the "you" in the above paragraph doesn't refer to Ferrick or anyone in particular.
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> gab"You can't convince me to stop eating chocolate, though."by

You never know if a debate really was just a waste of time. I look at a debate from the perspective that there is always the chance of my words sinking in. They might have no visible effect right now, but days, months, or ever years from now, someone might remember my side of the debate. If so, then I did not waste my time.

Similarly, I do not make it my goal to convince someone else that I am right. Instead, I try to get them to see my point of view and to understand it. If they can understand my opinions, and can understand why I have them, then I have accomplished something.

Ell"Insert quote about being tired here."myruh