| Re: The valley of the shadow of death?Speedball, on host 207.10.37.2 Tuesday, February 29, 2000, at 14:55:21
 Re: The valley of the shadow of death? posted by Grace on Tuesday, February 29, 2000, at 14:40:32:
 > >  One thing in particular stands out -- it has > vowels.
 > >
 > > Biblical Hebrew was originally written without
 > any vowels; that's why you'll sometimes see Yahweh
 > written as YHWH -- though we're pretty sure Yahweh
 > is the correct pronounciation, it could
 > theoretically be almost anything.  There were a
 > number of reasons the texts didn't need vowels,
 > among them that they were primarily being
 > transmitted orally; the existence of a text helped
 > more to validate the spoken word than it did as a
 > reference for it.
 >
 > Hrm. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what you mean by
 > "reasons they didn't need vowels" but...
 >
 > Hebrew (Biblical or Modern) does certainly *have*
 > vowels.  (I know, you weren't suggesting it
 > didn't.)  They simply aren't represented by
 > characters in the alphabet as they are in English.
 > I would argue that the "reason" Hebrew didn't need
 > vowels, is that...well...neither does English, or
 > any other language.  Obviously we need to *speak*
 > the vowels, but write each one out?  Anyone
 > familiar with Hebrew can easily read aloud (with
 > correct vowels) a Hebrew text without vowle
 > markers.  If i were to have written this post
 > without any vowles, my guess is that, with very
 > little difficulty, you would have understood it.
 >
 > Aftr ll, y cn undrstnd ths sntnc, rght?
 >
 > Anyway, this was just a little side note to my
 > original question.  I simply wanted to make clear
 > that the reason written Hebrew does not represent
 > vowels, is that they're simply not necessary.
 > Hebrew is a very "compact" language in many ways,
 > the lack of alphabet vowles being only one
 > example.
 >
 > Gr"p.s. there *are* vowels markers in Hebrew, they
 > are just very rarely used, and consist of small
 > dots and dashes marked underneath the consonant to
 > which they belong"ace
 
 But you do notice some words, with out vowels, can be confussing.
 For instance, what word do I mean here.
 This is my ct.
 
 What is ct? Is it a cat or a cot? In something like the bible, which uses a lot of allusions, metaphores, and images confussion like this can change the meaning of an entire passage.
 
 And even when we do know what a word is, some words have multiple meanings.
 
 Speed'cnyrdths'ball
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