> > > > > Ok two, but the second one I'm sure you'll all have an argument for.
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> > > > They both have roughly the same answer: poorly written screenplay.
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> > > Makeing room for human error, I though the movie rocked. And considere this, the AI's could see what the guy looked like, they just had to show him his face in a mirror and then he would think "That is what I look like."
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> > > As for the dieing in the Matrix, they may know that it isn't real, but their minds are still in there, it isn't their bodies being attacked but their mind. Once the mind is dead the body follows. It happenes in comic books I carracter goes into either VR or the Astral Plane, they get killed there, their mind never gets back to their bodies so they die. Also if the body is killed the mind will die as well. Can't have one and not the other.
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> > > Speed'Isthatclear?'ball
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> > I understand all that but my point is that their minds know that nothing else in the Matrix is real and so they can manipulate them to their minds content. Why is being killed any different? You might argue that they could only *bend* the laws of physics. They couldn't, for instance, fly, they could only *pause* in the air or jump farther than normal. But they still had to comply, eventually, to the laws. And I'd have to agree that you'd be right. But I still wonder how the mind could have that kind of a grasp on the reality of things and have absolutely *no* effect on death.
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> > As for the AI knowing what he looked like. There was no evidence that they ever had any idea what there "citizens" looked like. Except for the "agents" and the octopus things there was nothing indicating any interaction with the AI at all. And since the agents were in the Matrix too, and the octopus things were search and destroy only, I don't see how either of them could have been responsible for knowing what he looked like.
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> > Now I don't mean to down-play the movie. I readily admit that it had to be one of the best movies I have seen in... well... forever but I just can't get passed these two things about the movie. I have brought these arguments to several people with mixed results but no one has, as of yet, been able to make me comfortable with their answers.
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> > Drac "Being difficult" imas
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> The reason that Neo looked the same both inside and outside of The Matrix was because Keanu Reeves plays Neo!!! If they had used two different actors, it would have been way too confusing. Plus, they would have had to pay this other actor and the producers probably didn't want to do that.
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> It was not some grand plot convenience or anything like that. I seriously doubt that the writers, producers, etc.. even gave it a second thought. They cast Keanu Reeves as Neo...period.
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> Kel"this is Hollywood, don't read too much into it"ly

But when a show like that is made to show the possibilities of our future I think it should be as accurate as it can be. It isn't too deep of a subject to think that he would not have known what his *true* face looked like. All I'm saying is that I think the realism would have been enhanced if he had seen himself in a mirror and not known who he was looking at because his face in his mind and his face in reality were not the same.

However I can accept the explanation Speed-Ball gave that they tried false images once before in the Utopian Matrix and people rebelled against it because they instinctively knew that things weren't right.

I know most of you aren't in the least bit concerned about this. But it is important to me that movies like this one be accurate. I mean if someone has the imagination and intellect to think the thing up and develope the script as fully as they did, is it really too much to ask that they explain how he knew what he looked like?

Drac "Ok I'm being difficult again" imas