> * I still don't think vulgarity belongs in the professional sphere. I remember eating at a Rock-Ola Cafe with some friends once, when one of the waitstaff almost gave us a plate of appetizers that were supposed to go to another table. Catching his mistake in time, he jokingly said what he assumed our response must have been: "Hey, alright -- FREE s__t!" It was a joke, but I'm too old-fashioned to feel that it's okay for a waiter to swear in front of his customers.

I agree. That is completely unprofessional.

> * I'm also old-fashioned enough that it bothers me ever so slightly more to hear women use profanity than it does when I hear men do the same. Sorry for that double-standard, ladies; but it's hard to help.

Again, I agree. I *do* hold a double standard about that sort of thing. It bothers me to hear women swear, and it bothers me when people swear around women. My immediate instinct is to reprimand them for their behaviours, but the I think about it and realize that they won't get it, and the women I'm all upset about having these people swear around won't get it, and I'll look stupid. So I don't really know what to do.

Dar "Who says chivalry is dead, anyway?" ien