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Re: "Cheese" as a "Cheeseburger" "topping"
Posted By: Gabe, on host 71.36.206.173
Date: Thursday, August 18, 2005, at 15:57:05
In Reply To: Re: Cheese as a Cheeseburger topping posted by Sam on Tuesday, August 16, 2005, at 14:18:03:

> > ... dialect...

> ... redefining your terms ...
> If you have to explain your definition of a term to a whole group of people who agree on it meaning something different, then it is neither obvious nor natural.

I asked several people in this area their opinion on this silly question, expecting a mix of answers. There was 100% agreement that cheese is a cheeseburger topping. I know Internet debaters love to pretend that difference of dialect, and even language, is an absurd and false obstacle thrown about by losing arguers. They are simply wrong. (They often also don't realize that such arguments are double-edged, but that's a logical misstep and not a linguistic conceit.)

So, OK, in an absolute sense one definition may not be more obvious or natural, but in my dialect at least it seems natural and obvious that a topping tops something, a filling fills something, a covering covers something, a stuffing is stuffed in something, etc.

Ga"Will remember that in other parts of the world jelly is not a filling in a jelly-filled doughnut, turkey stuffing is not a stuffing in a stuffed turkey, and beans are not a covering of rice covered with beans, and that to speak otherwise would be dishonest or unwarranted redefinition of terms"be

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