> I'm sure Howard would have something to say on this subject too, when he reads it.

I certainly can't pass up this thread. You are all so blessed with youth! After the second 30 years, things will begin to change again just like they did in your third decade. I was born in 1933, so I must have turned 30 in 1963. That's the year our third child was born. This is not the same world it was in 1963. I couldn't possibly have pictured myself in 2004, siting here in this house, typing on a machine that had not been invented yet, communicating with people all over the world instantly.

I just heard our first child come in upstairs, so I will continue this later.
Howard