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Re: Fall
Posted By: wintermute, on host 24.209.12.173
Date: Tuesday, October 19, 2004, at 14:08:21
In Reply To: Re: Fall posted by commie_bat on Tuesday, October 19, 2004, at 13:55:51:

> I think one could take a more positive view of autumn, and I think it's a decent candidate for a new year celebration.
>
> Sure, the most apparent change is the colour of the leaves, and you can see it as a death or an ending, but in between the colour change and the "fall", the trees are a more spectacular sight than at any other time of the year. Also, those leaves are the real beginning of next year's topsoil and new growth.

Dead leaves, rotting down through the winter. They don't become new life until the spring.

> Also, the harvest isn't so much a death as the culmination of a year's toil and effort. A well-earned reward for honest work, coupled with a time of plentiful food, seem just the time to celebrate.

Yes, the culmination As in "the end". And the end of the year is worth celebrating, I won't deny that, but it's not the beginning of the year.

> Autumn is also a good time to look back on the year that was. The apparent ending of everything around us is a natural time for retrospection, before all the evidence gets covered by a blanket of white.

Again, you're talking about endings, and not beginnings.

> > Spring is, in every sense, the birth of the new year and autumn is the death of the old year. If you insist on one year beginning as the last ends, rather than having a dead period through the winter, then midwinter is the only possible choice.
>
> I agree with the previous poster that spring is too gradual a change to properly celebrate. By the time you realize it's happening, the meaningful part of it is over. Any choice of date would necessarily be arbitrary.

No more arbitrary than choosing a random autumnal date. But just because the endings happen quicker than the beginnings is not a good reason to pretend that they're the same thing.

> ^v^:)^v^
> F"it's also hard to go out and celebrate on Jan 1 when you live somewhere cold"B

winter"So go out in the spring"mute

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