> What I have to say may or may not be what Gahalia was getting at towards the end of her post about the "rinkworks elitism," since I'm not quite sure exactly what she meant by that. So here's what I have to say.
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> This forum seems to me like a place that expects a lot out of people. Of course, spam is and should be deleted. But if you just look at the content of some of the posts, they are, almost without exception, very eloquent and well-thought-out. For me, it was very hard to match that level of sophistication in my posts. But I tried. At first, all was going pretty well. But now I've noticed that of the last dozen or so of my posts, almost all have either been deleted, not responded to, or responded to only negatively. So I stopped trying. Which is why I haven't posted in the past month and a half, because I figured that I wasn't a good enough poster to post much of anything on this forum, seeing as the rest of you really didn't appreciate much of what I said. My self-esteem was taking a beating, and so I stopped posting, figuring it would be better for me, and you all really didn't need me here. In fact, I wouldn't have posted anything on here again if it hadn't been for Sam's post. So I guess, to sum it up, I've stopped posting because the forum seems uninviting because I feel that I'm not on the same level as the rest of you.
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> As for chat, the story is much the same as on the forum. I felt like a fifth wheel, like nobody needed me there, seeing as how they already knew each other, and everything I said was pretty much ignored. So I stopped going there as well.
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> Just now, I understand what Gahalia was talking about, and I agree completely. I remember many times when I was about to post something but didn't because I figured people would think it was stupid and/or wouldn't care.
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> Another thought that just occurred to me: It seems like everyone knows everyone personally around here. I know that's not the case, but it just seems like everyone has someone that they have a relationship with outside of RinkWorks. I don't. I feel like an outsider, and nobody enjoys my company here. I lift right out.
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> So I guess in response to your question, Sam, no, I do not intend to retreat to livejournals to communicate to other people in theis community. I don't feel like I'm in this community at all.
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> And as a final note, if my hunch is correct, and I am not welcome here, then please, by all means, say so. I will not be offended, as I am already assuming the worst. I'll only have the peace of mind that I'm not misunderstanding somehow, and I'll "officially" leave, sparing you all the the atrocity of my presence.
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I just want to add that I blame none of you for this, save perhaps for making such good posts. Rather, I blame myself for not being able to put forth my ideas as well as you do.

> knivetsil