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Re: Summer Movies, 2003
Posted By: Stephen, on host 68.7.169.109
Date: Saturday, April 12, 2003, at 23:19:24
In Reply To: Re: Summer Movies, 2003 posted by Faux Pas on Saturday, April 12, 2003, at 22:47:00:

> Wilhelmina Murray is a fictional character created for the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen comic book mini-series. She's based (or supposed to be) on Mina Harker, a woman bitten by Dracula in the book by Bram Stoker. It's not so farfetched to think that Hollywood would take that and make this entirely new fictional character a real vampire.

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> So Brunnen-G's main complaints are they expanded some fight scenes from the static panels of a comic book, they feature explosions (which they also had in the comic book), added a car to the late 19th century (even though Nemo's huge submersible and other futuristic-for-the-time devices were featured in the comic book), and that they changed the only unique fictional character created for the comic book series and her wardrobe so it would appear a lot more photogenic on the screen.

I'm not really sure why you think Mina Murray is somehow unique -- she is Mina Harker, reverted to her maiden name after the events in "Dracula." It says as much in the comic, on the first page of the first issue. Granted, she's Moore's take on the character as much as the Quatermain or Nemo that appear in the series, but she's obviously the Mina from Stoker's book.

> Comic books, movies, television, stage plays: all different forms of media. Costumes have to change -- something looks good on a drawn character doesn't look good on an actual human. Compare Hugh Jackson's leather to Adam West's form-fitting whatever that was. Action sequences have to change -- what works well in prose or in the limited space in a comic book won't on screen. There's a reason why J.K.Rowling didn't write the screenplay for the Harry Potter movies. There's a reason why Brian Michael Bendis hasn't written a full length novel. There's a reason why Howard Chaykin shouldn't write teleplays.

Point taken, but, uh, everyone in the "League" book wears normal clothing for the day. Particularly Mina Murray, who dresses in conservative Victorian-style dresses. I've seen movies in which women wear the exact same sorts of clothing and it looks fine. What it doesn't look fine for, of course, is fighting. This is probably why they changed Mina's outfit to leather -- because they've turned it into an action picture in which she fights.

The problem with this is that it's a complete betrayl of the Mina Murray character to have her using martial arts. She's the brains of the group, and she generally behaves like a lady of the day. It's so wrong for her to be wearing a leather outfit and using vampire powers.

Imagine if I made a Batman movie and had Batman be gay, wearing armor that accentuated his nipples. And I made Mr. Freeze into a huge hulking Austrian villain who makes awful one-liners. You, Faux Pas, being a fan of Batman, would probably be angry and rightfully so (I'm going to guess you weren't a fan of "Batman & Robin"). The reason is obvious: while adaptations don't have to be and shouldn't be an exact duplicate of the original material, it's annoying when a movie seems to ignore the *spirit* of the original work. It usually ends up seeming like some producers just wanted to make a quick buck and decided the easiest way to do that would be to license something with an existing fanbase.

> To wintermute's "they didn't stick to the story", the comic book series isn't actually a normal comic book series. It's two different mini-series. It appears that if LEG continues, it will be a series of related mini-series, each telling one story. This movie is simply another story.

Again, the problem is that the trailer seems to completely ignore the tone of the comics. Coming up with a new story is one thing, but coming up with a story whose tone is completely different is another. The comics are about seeing wondrous things in the vein of adventure novels of the era. The movie seems to be about blowing stuff up and fighting and looking cool. Not to mention that the visual style of the movie looks dark and gothic, which is also against the visual style of the comics.

Stephen

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