> > > OK, not grat leadership. However, if Hussein
> > >was an absolutely horrible leader who tortured
> > >everyone, I doubt he would have won.
> >
> > Wow, that's the most retarded thing ever. What on EARTH makes you think the voting was even *real*? Do you REALLY think 100% of eligible voters in Iraq turned out for the election? Do you REALLY think 100% of them voted for Hussein? Doesn't it strike you as slightly more plausible that Hussein just put up some random voting boxes, let people stuff paper in them, and then at the end of the day threw the boxes in the river and declared himself the victor with 100% of the vote?
> >
> >
> > > I'm not going to add more to this thread,
> > >because it seems to be becoming dangerously
> > >close to flame-war status. People are supposed
> > >to read our statements and think about our
> > >ideas, not follow an argument.
> >
> > I'm not even sure what this means. If you *had* an argument that was followable, I might attempt to follow it. And if you had any ideas that really seemed worthy of thought, I'd think about them. But it seems to me you're just spewing crap out your piehole that somebody fed to you and you decided to believe.
> >
> > -- Dave
>
> Well, that was a sure-fire way to get this thread deleted. And I guess this angered me enough to evoke a response. Oh well. I agree with you on the rigged election. I disagree on the fact that my ideas are crap. Jerk.

You've been pushing to get this thread deleted for a while. I agree with Dave - you've not been saying anything worth saying, just mindlessly contradicting everything anyone else says and justifying it by claiming that you're "exersizing your right to be skeptical" or "thinking outside the box" or "sweatin' with the oldies" or whatever. Basically, all you've said is "everything Bush says is a lie." When presented with evidence and/or arguments to the contrary, your response has been "but you can't PROVE that so I won't believe it!" When presented with proof, your response was "that's not proof because it's based on things other people said rather than on things you saw first-hand!" I believe you made a reference to it being impossible to prove that George Washington ever lived.

So allow me to be the first to welcome you to the Official Shut The Hell Up Club. We tried being patient with you, we tried explaining exactly WHY you were making an ass of yourself. No good. The ideas you heard on Nick News or read in the opinion columns of the local free press were the gospel truth, and you were not to be persuaded otherwise. Fine. Dandy.

"People are supposed to read our statements and think about our ideas, not follow an argument." You needn't worry - your argument was impossible to follow. It was illogical, ranting, and obviously based on childish prejudices rather than hard facts. Yeah, we get that you don't like Bush. This means exactly zero in terms of whether or not Saddam Hussein is a dictator, a brute, and an all-around not-nice-guy. Yes, president Bush's statement was meant to cast his policies as being generally favourable. That would be the point of any public speech made by a political official. You said some drivel about how Hussein wouldn't have been elected if he was truly barbaric and tortured people. Perhaps that would be true - IF he were running in a country that has free elections, and IF his platform was "if elected, I pledge to torture and kill my constituents." 86 that being the case, sub you're retarded. Iraq is not like that. Iraq is a dictatorship with fixed elections. He didn't need to "get elected" - he seized power. His reelections are a blind.

In short: your ideas are crap. They are what I would call deranged, lunatic paranoia, except that you're a child; in that case, they're not even that interesting. They're just standard childish drivel. They're the reason, simply put, that children are not allowed to vote.

Which isn't to say that children aren't allowed to discuss. In fact, I've been holding my tongue for quite a while, and have been much more tolerant of this idiocy than I should otherwise have been, simply *because* you're a child. But there are limits, and your ridiculous whining about how "mean" Dave was to you exceeded them.