> Some of these are known facts and not debatable. The rest we have some evidence for, but the case is as yet incomplete. (Colin Powell's presentation to the U.N. on February 5th appears to be when we are promised more complete evidence.)

Personally, I'm not against invading Iraq, but I'm against invading Iraq at this moment (more down below). What I want to see Colin Powell do at the UN is what we did at the UN during the Cuban Missile Crisis -- show evidence, not tell it. (I understand this puts sources at risk, but I think our intelligence is strong enough to protect the people who gave us the information although we'll lose them as a source.)

Why do I want to see evidence? Honestly, I think it's a citizens not to trust the government. As a voting nation, we deserve an open government that allows us to evaluate the decisions of our leaders. If Iraq is the threat they say it is, evidence should be easy to come by.

> (Tangent: Frankly, I think anyone that doesn't recognize that Iraq is a serious threat to the world has his hand in the sand. As for whether or not Iraq's threat is great enough to justify a war, until recently I was remaining undecided until our government provided more evidence. I'm convinced now.)

I don't believe for an instant that Iraq's threat is great enough to justify a war. I do believe that Iraq's threat is great enough to justify action. As long as we have inspectors in Iraq going wherever they want to go, there's only so much of a threat that Saddam can be. I say permeate Iraq with inspectors, steal away all their scientists if you want to. If Iraq resists, back the actions with military presence. If they stop us, then declare war. The thing is, currently Iraq isn't stopping us from doing anything - they're just not helping us. And helping us or not, it's tough to declare war when they say, "Go where-ever you want, whenever you want."

(My tangent: I think it's important that people know that one of the primary reasons inspectors were booted out of Iraq is because some of the inpectors were illegally spying for the US. Saddam's paranoid for his life and he felt the inspectors were going to aid an assassination attempt. Saddam's not a good guy by any means, but the first time he kicked our inspectors out wasn't entirely unjustified.)

Lot's of snips, sorry about that, but I think I kept the integrity of what you were saying.