> I don't think this is good evidence, even within your own system of belief. Natural "disasters", so called, are only disastrous for humans, whether directly or indirectly.
Bullseye. My fault for not thinking of it. Thanks for reminding me!

These things can be universally disastrous to humans, though, and the benefit to other creature types isn't an argument against calling it a disaster. When Hitler wiped out Jews, that was a disaster for the Jews but not the German high command; but that doesn't make it any less deplorable. If someone deliberately starts a bushfire for the sake of the countryside (disregard for now the likelihood of this truly being a good thing ), is he any less of a criminal for this reason? Destruction of life and property cannot and must not be justified on the basis of personal gain.

ChrisA