> That's a way loaded question. Mostly you find this stuff in the prophetical books of the Old Testament. Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 are pertinent chapters off the top of my head. At minimum, they establish that Satan -- maybe his followers too, I can't remember -- was created perfect and fell into corruption *before* his involvement in the events of Genesis.

Ezek. 28:11-19, specifically, as the previous 10 verses refer to "a man" (v. 9) who "will die ... at the hands of foreigners" (v. 10) from "the most barbarous of the nations" (v. 7).

Or, if you prefer, "shalt die ... at the hands of strangers" from "the terrible of the nations".

"terrible" meaning fearful, powerful, tyrannical, mighty, oppressor, strong, or violent, as well as terrible. (Strong's Hebrew #6184)

Now, in Luke 10:18, Yeshua mentions seeing Sawtawn fall from heaven, albeit in reference to His preincarnate existence.

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