> There is this show on the discovery channel that
>documents the training of Navy SEALS and Marines.
>They're on Sunday, you mihgt want to watch them, I"m
>not sure what time.
>

Uh. Yeah, I've seen that BUD/s show about the SEALs. It's really interesting, but I fail to see how it pertains to the discussion at hand. Unless you're using this show as a way of showing how the media correctly shows what training is all about. In which case you're right. Then again, this isn't boot camp you're watching. The men on that show have already been through boot camp. This is elite special forces training. Big difference. These men have already been indoctrinated into the military mindset, so there's not as much breaking down involved as there is building up (although they do intentionally try to break the men physically to see which ones can hang and which ones will give up.)

-- Dave