> > 3. Since the Jewish conquest in 1272 B.C.E.,the
> >Jews have had dominion over the land for one
> >thousand years with a continuous presence in the
> >land for the past 3,300 years.
>
> The Romans, Ottoman, and British Empires don't count?

1272 BCE + 1000 years forward = 272 BCE. The Romans, Ottomans, and British Empires had dominion after this time. The second part only tells of their *presence* in the land, *not* dominion. The conquering nations did not succeed in removing them completely.

> > 6. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in
> >Tanach, the Jewish Holy Scriptures. Jerusalem is
> >not mentioned once in the Koran.
> >
> > 7. King David founded the city of Jerusalem.
> >Mohammed never came to Jerusalem.
>
> I find this hard to believe--isn't the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem? Isn't that the place where Muslims believe Mohammed ascended into heaven? It'd be hard for Jerusalem not to have been mentioned in the Koran and for Mohammed never to have visited Jerusalem if that were true. I could be wrong, though, since I'm not exactly a religious scholar.

Read the linked-to articles. IIRC, there's something about this.

> > 8. Jews pray facing Jerusalem. Muslims pray
> >with their backs toward Jerusalem.
>
> Faux Pas already called this one. The only Muslims who pray with their back to Jerusalem are those who live between Jerusalem and Mecca directly on the line connecting the two. And it's completely incidental that even *these* Muslims pray with their "backs toward Jerusalem."

And I already responded to him on this. The point in this case(although he should've said it better) is that they don't purposefully face Jerusalem, but Mecca. It's completely incidental that those living on the *other* side of Mecca pray facing Jerusalem.

> > 9. Arab and Jewish Refugees: In 1948 the Arab
> >refugees were encouraged to leave Israel by Arab
> >leaders promising to purge the land of Jews.
> >Sixty-eight percent left without ever seeing an
> >Israeli soldier.
>
> So this would be the reason, then, for not granting the Palistinians right of return to the lands they left? Interesting.

Y'mean, they're not there? What are all those Arab settlements?

> > 13. The Arab - Israeli Conflict; The Arabs are
> >represented by twenty separate nations, not
> >including the Palestinians. There is only one
> >Jewish nation. The Arab nations initiated all
> >five wars and lost. Israel defended itself each
> >time and won.
>
> This is why I think the Arabs are the real world equivalent of the Klingons. They love to fight, but when it comes right down to it, they're not particularly good at it. And nothing anybody can say can change their minds about anything.
>
> >
> > 14. The P.L.O.'s Charter still calls for the destruction of the State of Israel. Israel has given the Palestinians most of the West Bank land, autonomy under the Palestinian Authority, and has supplied them with weapons.
>
> I'm not certain on this either, but I think the PLO charter was actually ammended after the 1993 Oslo accords so that they are no longer calling for the destruction of Israel. I thought that's why the Oslo accords were so historic.

Dunno about this one, either. They certainly acting like it's still there.

> -- Dave

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