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Re: No sirs please, we're British

Posted By: wintermute, on host 172.188.228.165
Date: Monday, March 4, 2002, at 02:55:41
In Reply To: Re: No sirs please, we're British posted by The_Scotsman on Sunday, March 3, 2002, at 17:15:31:

> > According to the Constitution, the US government is forbidden to give out titles of nobility. So, no US equivalent.
> >
> > Lucky "used Article I, Section 9, Clause 8 as his reference" Wizard
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> --- CLAUSE 8 FOR REFERENCE ---
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> --->Clause 8: No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.
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> Hrm. This makes me think... Did Rudy need to get consent from the U.S. Congress before accepting the KBE from the United Kingdom? Or are the letters KBE not considered a "title" and are more of an acknowledgement of status (like the CNE I tack on at the end of my name at work)?
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> The_Scots"Certified Novell Engineer"man

A KBE is not a title. At least, not when presented to a non-Brit. It's an honour, but the title of a knighthood is the "Sir".

wintermute

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Re: No sirs please, we're British - Mau-Evig - Tue, 3/5/2002, 10:52:50
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Message:	> > > According to the Constitution, the US government is forbidden to give out titles of nobility. So, no US equivalent. > > > > > > Lucky "used Article I, Section 9, Clause 8 as his reference" Wizard > > > > > > --- CLAUSE 8 FOR REFERENCE --- > > > > --->Clause 8: No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State. > > > > Hrm. This makes me think... Did Rudy need to get consent from the U.S. Congress before accepting the KBE from the United Kingdom? Or are the letters KBE not considered a "title" and are more of an acknowledgement of status (like the CNE I tack on at the end of my name at work)? > > > > The_Scots"Certified Novell Engineer"man > > A KBE is not a title. At least, not when presented to a non-Brit. It's an honour, but the title of a knighthood is the "Sir". > > wintermute
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