> > > > Also, the Silmarillion is essential. During
> the last chapter of the war of the ring, it does
> talk about Gandalf and Sauruman, using their
> elvish names I believe, and gives a few details
> you might not have been aware of-including
> the bearers of the three rings.
> >
> > > Who are the three?
> > > Galadriel
> > > ?Elrond
> > > and?
> >
> > Gandalf. Although I think it used to be Cirdan
> the Shipwright at the Grey Havens, who does
> not feature in LotR.
>
> Yep. Cirdan gave the Ring of Fire to Gandalf,
> because he perceived Gandalf would need it
> more than he would. I think that's in the
> Silmarillion, but I'm not sure about that. I know
> I read it somewhere.
>
> The Other "I'm up to the part where they've
> entered the city of Caras Galadhon in
> Lothlorien" Matthew

Aaahh.. thankyou.
I'd been told that it was Gandalf, but dismissed it, because they were *elven* rings. That clears things up.

sam"I'm up to the bloody Entmoot. No matter how many times I read it, although I find that bit boring, I can't skip over it."hael