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Re: Subjectivity and Objectivity
Posted By: Brunnen-G, on host 203.96.111.200
Date: Saturday, December 29, 2001, at 22:40:17
In Reply To: Subjectivity and Objectivity posted by Minamoon on Saturday, December 29, 2001, at 19:44:01:

> Once again, Mina learns that she shouldn't try to talk about intelligent topics on other boards.
>
> Know what? People who insist that everything- particularly ideas on right and wrong- is subjective tick me off. Apparently it's offensive to think anything is definite anymore. Heaven forbid we offend someone by telling him he's wrong. No, no, instead we have to come up with some nonsense about how everything is okay if it's right to you. About how everything is an opinion and an opinion can never be wrong. Poppycock.

This is one of those ideas which I think should be firmly divided into "theoretical" and "applied" sections. For example, if somebody wants to have a long and involved debate about how, philosophically, nothing is ever right or wrong, that's fine. I'll even find it interesting. I'll even partially *believe* it. The second you start trying to apply that viewpoint to your behaviour in real life, however -- no.

This may sound like a contradictory viewpoint, but it works for me. Whether or not right and wrong exist in any perfect and eternal sense, human society doesn't work unless people take a majority decision on what the important things are, and label them firmly as "right" or "wrong". I don't care whether anybody thinks there's ultimate universal truth behind it or not. It's necessary to keep things working on our particular level, and anybody who says it isn't should be poked with a stick and made to sit outside in the rain.

Brunnen-"has noticed most 'an opinion can never be wrong' people are quite definite about how it only should apply to THEIR opinions"G

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