Re: Civil liberties, anyone?
The Other Matthew, on host 147.72.80.2
Tuesday, December 18, 2001, at 05:44:00
Civil liberties, anyone? posted by Ellmyruh on Monday, December 17, 2001, at 17:51:12:
Ok...we're fighting a war. I think we can all agree on that. Who are we fighting? A bunch of Middle Eastern guys. Thusly, who would want to harm America the most? Middle Eastern guys. Makes sense to me. I'm not saying that all Middle Eastern guys want to harm America, but I'd say it much more likely they will than, say, a blue-eyed blond-haired Swede.
Throughout the investigation, it has been noted numerous times that many of the people involved in committing these acts came over here previously on temporary visas, and that people who are known terrorists and are wanted by the federal government have done the same thing: they came over on student visas, went to our universities (on yours and on my tax money), then went back with their newfound knowledge to aid their terrorist buddies. I'd say that's a trend that needs to be investigated.
Most of the Middle Eastern guys being held by our government, if I am not mistaken, are not citizens of this country. Therefore, they are not protected by our Constiution and the other laws we have in place.
The writer of this speech wonders about the suspension of habeas corpus becoming common. I'm sure the same thing was said when the greatest president we've ever had, Abraham Lincoln, did the same thing during the Civil War. The same thing happened during World War II when FDR ordered Japanese-Americans put into internment camps. The thought process is like I said before: We are fighting Middle Easterners, thus: a Middle Easterner is more likely to want to harm America.
The writer wonders about military tribunals. Military tribunals are not going to be used against *citizens of this country.* They will be used against what are, essentially, prisoners of war. People who are not citizens of the United States HAVE NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.
In closing, *your* rights and *my* rights are not being infringed upon. It is the "rights" of people who aren't even citizens of this country that are being "infringed" upon. (Notice the quotation marks.) And if you still believe that yout rights are being taken away, and you can get enough people to go along with you...well...that's what the Second Amendment is for. To ensure that the power of government resides with the people.
The Other "Step 1: Open mouth. Step 2: Insert foot." Matthew
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