> > > > Hrm, I think that's roughly the same amount of time it took the average player that didn't cheat to beat Riven. I'm joking of course. Nobody beat Riven without cheating.
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> > > While we're on the subject... has anyone ever actually beaten "Gauntlet" without cheating? Or Doom II on "Nightmare" level? Just curious. :-}
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> > How did you cheat in Gauntlet? Were there cheat codes that I didn't know about, or some kind of cheapo maneuver that always worked? The latter is how I learned to get all the way through Double Dragon on a single quarter, because every badguy in the whole game--and I mean each and every one--was a sucker for the reverse-elbow maneuver. You could elbow whole crowds of enemies at once, and watch them all hold their stomachs and topple forwards. Then you'd just walk over to the other edge of the screen and wait for them to get up and walk right into your elbow again. I was a Grand Master of the reverse-elbow by age fourteen. Occasionally I'd even perform a flying kick, if there was only one opponent on the screen and I thought I could take him in a fair fight. :-)
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> Someone I know said he somehow beat Gauntlet on the Nintendo through some weird glitch. Supposedly it brought him to a level made completely out of fake exit tiles, and had to find the real one, and when he did it showed a picture of a castle and "congratulations." I don't know how you'd beat it any other way, doesn't it just go on and on?

I think there's an ending in there after a hundred-and-something levels, but I'm really not sure. I've never finished it, m'self, and I don't *know* of any cheats for it offhand; that was included for consistency and as a safeguard.

On the subject of neat glitches, a friend of mine, quite some time ago, had his copy of "Zelda II: The Adventure of Link" glitch in such a way that it replaced the name on one of his save files with a picture of a whale (I'm serious) and, when he loaded it, all of his levels were 8 and he had all the palaces beated, but no treasures collected. It was odd.

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