> In all of this, what frustrates me is the tendency of some journalists and propagandists to cast the issue in terms of experience and emotion, as if someone whose mother suffers from Alzheimer's ought to be ashamed of himself for sticking to the moral conviction that a fetus is a real human life and opposing the research that could alleviate his mother's suffering. As a nation, we need to be taught how to *resist* letting emotions drive our ethics, but we're usually encouraged to do the opposite.

Not just your nation. This applies equally well to Britain and (I'm sure) the rest of the world.

We do need to try and look at these issues, and many other issues without too much emotional baggage. I can't say I ever expect it to happen, but it should.

Other than that, I've decided not to get involved in this thread.

winter"It's not like I'd convince anyone"mute