> Many of the roads have been in the same place for centuries and their width, and curves reflect this. Narrow crooked roads are no problem for horse-drawn vehicles.

New England has little narrow twisty roads? YES! Only yesterday we were talking about how it'll be interesting to see what Sam and Leen and Dave think of the roads in New Zealand. All our previous foreign visitors have gone nuts over NZ road twistiness, but they've always been from city areas, so I want a perpective from another renowned world centre of twistiness.

Our roads here seem to be based on the theory that straight lines are bad and you should never go through any geographical feature when you can go around it. I still remember my grandfather making us laugh as he counted the seconds between hairpin turns on one mountain road; he seldom got above three. "ONE, TWO, THREE, TURRRRRRRN! ONE, T...TURRRRRN! ONE, TWO, THRTURRRRRNN!!"

Brunnen-"this is why it takes so long to get anywhere"G