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MarkN, on host 64.160.93.99
Monday, December 4, 2000, at 17:58:19
Tip of the iceberg. posted by Howard on Monday, December 4, 2000, at 15:34:29:
> Seeing all the evidence of election fraud in Florida, and a few other states, makes you wonder how widespread it really is. I think Florida is just the tip of the proverbial iceberg. There is probably not a state in the union that could stand the examination that Florida has had without revealing all kinds of irregularities. > > Some of it is small stuff resulting in just a few votes in the wrong column. In most cases, I'm afraid, there is a whopping difference between reported totals and what the voters actually voted. > > Then there is the effort on the part of certain groups to limit participitation. A number of black voters in Florida never made it to the voting machines, because they never got through the official minefield. I would guess that the same stuff happens to Hispanics in a number of southwestern states. In some northeastern states, with their ethnic diversity, I'll bet you had better be voting in the right neighborhood. > > I seriously doubt that there is even one state that is free of election fraud. > Howard
Of course not. But it's only advantegous to point out the right kind of it.
For example-suits over 19,000 ballots thrown out in the most heavily democratic counties in Florida. 200,000 ballots statewide thrown out. 2 million nation wide thrown out.
At least 465 felons in Florida voted... and 5,000 most likely voted. 80% are registered democrats. Hundreds of illegal immigrants voted in Florida, thousands nationwide. Disputed ballots from illegal immigrants proved the turning point for one house race in California-it tilted it to the Democrats.
I'm a bit more skeptical this election than usual. So many races swung over to the Democrats at the last minute. The Senate race in Washington-at no point had the democratic candidate been ahead until the very end of the counting. In florida, until the last 7% of the votes were counted Bush had a 200,000 vote lead. A local race in California had the Republican up by two thirds until the last 20% in which the Democratic candidate narrowly won.
It's a bit much, in my opinion, for that much statistical clumping to take place, all over the nation, in the same way. The counties that reported in latest in the night in Florida had disproportionately high turnout.
So much in our current system needs to be fixed. It's far too easy to vote by absentee and directly-and quite a few have anonymously admitted to it. We need to get a completely accurate, reliable, fool-proof, and fraud-proof method of voting. In the light of this election contraversy, it should be a pretty clear objective for the next four years.
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