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Re: What do you have against thinking?
Posted By: Speedball, on host 207.10.37.2
Date: Thursday, September 14, 2000, at 11:14:53
In Reply To: Re: What do you have against thinking? posted by Ferrick on Thursday, September 14, 2000, at 08:23:35:

> > Ok, let's take a community that we are all very much involved in. Rinkworks. Now lets say that the vast majority of people decided that they are against posts that us multiple !!!!!s, ALL CAPS and so forth. Is the webmaster wrong to take off the posts, or kick people out of Rinkchat for speaking as such? Isn't it their *right* to do so? Freedom of speach, right? They can say whatever they like, right? Wrong. We *don't* want to deal with it, so why should we have to? Let them go somewhere else and speak *freely* (even though, IMHO, their speach is childish and immature, they can still speak it) I know several places where people like that will fit right in. AOL, for example. ;-)
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> This is an issue that comes up all the time in the workplace and such. "I have freedom of speech so I can say what I want." Sure, you can say what you want, but you can also be fired, promoted, or ignored because of it. Why is this? Because you are working for somebody else and they have the right to run a business as they see fit. When John Rocker made racist comments, Major League baseball should have the ability to ban him because of it. Most everything comes at a price, freedom of speech included. I can say whatever I want, but hopefully I have thought out the possible repercussions.
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> "All things are permissable but not all things are beneficial."
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> I agree with Dave in the fact that I should be able to choose what I will read, see, and do. I feel that I have been given that ability to filter what is good for me and what isn't and I agree with Iss that I am affected by what I read. Hopefully I can teach this to my children as well so they make good decisions and realize what is good for them to read and what is not.
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> Sam can kick people off the site because it is his and he has the right to say what can and can't be on it.
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> Ferrick

Kind of like Boy Scouts. While I think they are wrong to keep gay people out Scouting is still a privet organization, and therefor has the right to exclude whoever they want. The freedom to assemble also implies the freedom to not assemble with some people. Sam can ban, filter, or remove content and people he doesn't like because this is a privetly own web site. I don't mind if a Catholic school bans Harry Potter, I don't agree with it but Catholic Schools are private organizations. A public school pulling Harry Potter is another matter. It is part of the goverment, so are public libraries.

Now a rateing system for books would be good, but it should be more thought out that the movie one. They way the movie industry works now Violence, even very gorry sadistic violence is more acceptable than sex or sexuality. I belive it was Jack Nicholson who said (and I'm going to paraphrase the language some)"If a woman takes her shirt off and gets her chest cut it is an 'R' rateing, if she gets her chest kissed it is an 'X'(or XXX, NC-17)." Personaly I find something wrong with that. Mutilation is more acceptable than love makeing.

Speed'God's first order to mankind "Be fruitful and multiply" Man's first sin after leaveing Eden, murder, and act of violence'ball