Re: Redneck Culture
CarrieAnn, on host 24.216.10.15
Tuesday, June 20, 2000, at 08:00:04
Re: Redneck Culture posted by gabby on Monday, June 19, 2000, at 18:31:08:
I guess what gets me is that I can be called whitey or honkey and that's okay, but if a white person refers to a person of another race by a descriptive term such as that it is on the news. I recently went to NYC and on the subway there were two women fighting. One was black, the other was white. In the fight the white woman was called a "white b--ch". As I listened to them argue it occured to me that if the tables were turned and the white woman had called the other woman the equivilent, it would have been a huge racial incident. What's good for the goose, is good for the gander, don't you think? I know it probably sounds like it, but I'm not racist in any way. I went shopping in the Bronx and was the only white person around that I saw and never once felt scared, intimidated or anything. I look at people as people and react to them as they act towards me. All I wish is that there could be some consistency in what is acceptable and what is not.
> >>The problem is, redneck is used to describe > an entire region and is used to describe a > group of people that many have never > encountered. I was a little defensive when I > first posted today, but it was just because I > was at my wits end. I'm so tired of hearing > about hate crimes and racial tensions. The > problem, though, is that everyone engages in > prejudiced, stereotype speech and until we all > recognize our differences, accept them and > understand that nothing that happened over a > hundred years ago can be changed we'll be > stuck in this cycle. I don't really take myself > seriously, I was just angry earlier. I get on a > soap box and lose my point sometimes. > Anyway, I'm as tired of being labeled as stupid > because I have a drawl as African Americans > are of being labeled as dangerous when 2 or > more are walking down a Southern street. I'm > tired of terms like "us" and "them" when > referring to racial groups. > > > > > Brunnen-"around here we call rednecks Westies"G > > It's the same general perception on the West Coast. Most everyone I've talked to thinks accents are cool, albeit sometimes hard to understand in the case of heavy Southern and Texan ones. > > As for derogatory terms, they hardly exist here. Oregon is still an almost homogenous culture. My little town of Sutherlin has (to my knowledge) only one African American family, several Korean families, and a fair percentage of Latinos. The rest are whites of some type. But there is no "us" or "them." People live wherever they want. Most all the kids grew up here, so they're just Denny, James, or Jennifer, not the birthplaces of their grandparents. Being in high school, I've certainly heard derogatory things about them (and everyone else), but it's never been centered on their color. People just kind of agree that it's immaterial. > > I wandered a bit there, but part of my point is that those terms are common, but not derogatory. People regularly use them of themselves, in fact. If someone calls me a whitey or a gringo, that's fine--I'm white. It has no bad connotation. If I'm trying to communicate who a particular person is, and he or she happens to be of a minority flesh color, why shouldn't I say that he or she's the black freshman? No one would object to being called pale or tan, and skin tone caused by ethnic descent isn't considered any different here. > > I'm quite aware it's not like this in all parts of the country. In northern Washington, there was some not-insignificant general annoyance with the local Indian population. Some friends of mine (who are extremely pale) moved to Arkansas into a black neighborhood. Each and every neighbor had refused to even speak to them. People tried to run over them. They left the situation after a month or so. Certainly all the people in Arkansas aren't that way, but few reports otherwise reach our ears here. > > Hmm. This ranged a little farther than I'd planned, so I'd better quit while I'm a head. > > gab"Sorry about the RBJ reference. Those things probably shouldn't be alluded to, so people can more easily forget them."by
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