> Sometimes you need to select a single option repeatedly to get anything to happen. Think about the types of things you might need to be patient for. There's one place in or near the gardens where you have to do this, and one place around the river. Also, sometimes you need to select options in a particular order.

And sometimes you have to walk halfway across the bloody world to get *another* carrot! There should be a box of infinite carrots to go with the nails. :-}

Dar "Carrots are for wimps anyway" ien