> > > > > > > The "quick fix" is to kill all the hung chat
> > > > > > >processes, and then everything works again. :-)
> > > > > > Well, see, that's what I mean. When you're not around, there's no-one who can do this, so even if this is all that is needed to get chat running again, it won't work until you wake up/get back. Which is why I asked if it were possible to "give me the keys" so to speak, just so I could do simple stuff like this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >The real fix is to diagram a chart of all the
> > > > > > >perl subroutines in the chat script, the
> > > > > > >execution flow, and the external files they
> > > > > > >access, so one can figure out how two processes
> > > > > > >can get hung trying to access a files that the
> > > > > > >other one has locked out.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ooo, sounds like fun!
> > > > >
> > > > > What ARE these two guys talking about?
> > > > > How"not a clue"ard
> > > >
> > > > Oh, you know... diagram a chart of all the
> > > > perl subroutines in the chat script, the
> > > > execution flow, and the external files they
> > > > access, so one can figure out how two processes
> > > > can get hung trying to access a files that the
> > > > other one has locked out.
> > > >
> > > > Sounds pretty simple to me. Tell you what Sam. Just allow me to look at the code for you. I've never done it before, but how hard could it be???
> > > > After all, I *am* a hardware tech. I *do* know a bit about computers.
> > > >
> > > > Drac "Trust me" imas
> > >
> > > Thanks for the explanation, Drac, I understand it all perfectly now.
> > > Howard
> >
> > Glad I could be of assistance. If you have any further questions, I'd be glad to pretend that I know about those too, even though I probably wouldn't have an inkling of an idea about what you'd be asking.
> >
> > Drac
>
> Sure, Drac, I have a question, a really good one too. Do you think you could ask Dave Parker to describe the contents of an uncompressed TCP header packet? Everyone knows that any SA worth his salt could answer that one in his sleep, right? :-)
>
> Wolf "Oooh, it's coming: The End of TCP/IP As We Know It" spirit

Sure Wolf, I'll take care of it. No worries.

Dave, Wolf wants to know the contents of the TCP salt packets you use in your sleep when you become undepressed in the head.

There Wolf, you should get your answer soon enough.

Drac "Always there to help a friend in need" imas