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Re: Education inflation?
Posted By: Mel, on host 63.225.182.245
Date: Thursday, December 2, 1999, at 20:18:26
In Reply To: Re: Education inflation? posted by Chris on Thursday, December 2, 1999, at 17:54:56:

> > I am currently a sophmore in high school, and I have noticed a disturbing trend. Remember the days of elementary school and you would tell your parents what you were doing in school, like learning about the difference between sugar and protein or how plants make oxygen? What did your parents say? Well mine would always say "wow, I didn't learn that until the ninth grade!" or "gee I didn't do that until grad school!" What I'm getting at is that the things that kids are expected to know nowadays are not necessarily what they need to know. And it is becoming worse and worse. For example, at my school the freshman science class my freshman year was "Foundations of science", which you could skip if you wanted to (and passed the test) and go into Biology, mostly a sophmore class. I got into biology. This year, my sophmore year, they administration got rid of Foundations, and now Biology is the freshman science class.
> > My english class is reading The Scarlet Letter, an accepted American Classic, a tale of the human heart and human nature going up against strict Puritan values. This is a book reserved for college guys, and they like that book. Nobody in my class doesn't hate it. Shoving this college reading material down our fifteen and sixteen year-old throats is not only unnatural, but it has ruined a book that I might have enjoyed, or at least understood, while in college.

Really? At my (private) middle school, the eighth graders were assigned to read The Scarlet Letter. But when I finally got into eighth grade we got a new english teacher, and the only novel we read _all_year_long_ was the Bronze Bow. And we spent three months on it!

> > This is seriously scary, the inflation of education. Everyone is trying to get ahead, but what's happenning is like the academic version of an arms race, where schools figure that they can get kids more prepared by teaching them more and more complex, adult stuff at a very adolescent age. We can't handle it.
> >
> > A very concerned Finchplucker
>
> Can I go to your school?
>
> Here, even the so-called Honors Programs are slow. We did Puritan Projects in English (an Honor class) which consisted of learning to make clothes &/or grind wheat &/or cook. The teacher gave us class time for all of it. Took up about a week. In math, we go snail's pace and some of the people still don't get it. Maybe if they *tried* their homework (which isn't collected).... Now, some people in that class, yes, just have a majorly hard time at math in general. I don't have any beef with them-- I go out of my way not to. But they are the ones that only ask questions on a few problems they don't understand. The people that are dragging down the class average and forcing the teacher to think he's going too fast are the ones that simply don't care. There's no reason for them to. There's no challenge. Several are fairly intelligent, they just have no reason to try. Same thing in Chemi and all the language classes. Freshman science is IS9 [integrated science ninth grade] and is a total slacker class. I mean, the rest are too, but even more so. If you got a B or better in science eighth grade year you can go to Biology. Eight Grade science consisted, for me, of measuring and cooking. Biology was, with my teacher, bad jokes [not bad like in the RinkWorks section, bad like are banned from it] and army stories. I couldn't even get a good evolution/creation argument from the guy.

Well hey, that's what Rinkworks is for. ;-)

>I topped out his class (got over 100%... not sure if all of you are familiar with my terminology) fot the sole purpose of ticking him off.

Your teacher was ticked off that you got over 100%? Hrmmm...

>Not like I had anyhting better to do. When one of my teachers said something to the extent of 'our schol system is _not_ going to pot; I'll prove it to you" I half expected him to whip out a pan.

Hehe.

>I have one class I actually have to work for my grade-- Honors US History, or HUSH-- and out of all my classes I think I'll use that the least. I mean, I totally believe in learning from past mistakes, but we're really in-depth. It happens, though I'm no history buff, to be my favorite class.
> I'm getting an A in English... you see how unorganized this is....

Yeeha! US history rules!

-M"no, I'm not being sarcastic"el

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