> > Be taken by suprise. Or learn anything new. These are things he can't do, which means he isn't omnipotant. If he is omnipotant then he can't be omnicient because only then he could be suprised. So you have to decide which is more important to your veiw of God, the knowledge or the power?
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> There are several riddles that play with words like this. Can God create a rock so big, he can't push it up a hill? is another one. My attitude toward these paradoxes? So what? Personally, I believe in simultaneous truth of "God can create a rock so big, he can't push it up a hill" *and* "God can push any rock up a hill," whether that breaks the bounds of petty human logic or not. But I wouldn't argue the issue. It's a worthless, useless, purposeless debate that accomplishes exactly nothing for anyone, no matter what is ultimately decided.
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> We started this thread discussing something real: what love is, and who has the ability to exhibit it. That's a real issue that matters. Now we're diddling with useless riddles and snappy one-liners you're throwing out as monkeywrenches. You certainly seem irrationally insistent on fighting however you conceivably can.

I had a point, which I will now get to.
I belive God didn't fully relise what he had created with the human soul. He didn't understand us until he became of us in the person of His Son. There is a profound diffrence in the behavior of the Old Testement God (flooding the world, destroying Sodam & Gahmors, turning Lot's wife to Salt, sending the Jews in to basicly conquor the holy land) and the message Jesus preaches(love thy neighbor, forgive thy enemies).
In the book of Genisis He says "Let Us create man in Our image" I don't belive that this is our physical nature. (God can do what ever He wants, therfore he can BE what ever He wants, so everything is concivible in him image) We are made in God's nature in our mind and soul, there is were we reflect God. (there is also the issue of who God was talking to if he hadn't created people yet but I digress)
I think we are more like God than he relised, a parent often is confused by there children, because while their children are a reflection of themselves the children go though diffrent experiences so that they are unique. Our souls and minds are in the image of a omnipotnet almost all knowing being that are stuck in the body of a mortal hairless ape. God didn't understand our actions until he lived like us.