> > > > Well, Hamelt's Uncle wasn't ever very sneaky except in lying to the Queen. He didn't trick is brother in to killing himself or some such, he poured poison in his ear. Hamlet was the sneaky one (and it got almost everyone killed)
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> > > What? Did you finish the play? Did you get to the part (Act 4, scenes 5 and 7) where Claudius is convincing Laertes to work with him against Hamlet? I'd say that's reasonably sneaky and treacherous.
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> > > The Bard of Amway strikes again!
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> > It was rather straight forward, as opposed to the manipulations of other villians. Besides, Laertes was pissed at Hamlet to start with, before the Weird Sister and his wife MacBeth was loyal to the king.
> > Basicly what I'm saying is Claudius is one of the less impresive villians in Billy's stable.
> > Now, is Brutus a villian in Juilies Ceaser or the Hero? I say hero but he did kill the title character.
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> Macbeth still would have been loyal to the king, most likely. He didn't have time to sort out his priorities, and Lady Macbeth seized the opportunity she had to become queen. Macbeth didn't consider assassination until after he was named thane of Cawdor, and he was repulsed at himself for thinking that. Of course, it's plausible that he was thinking assassination the whole time, and his wife just helped him along, but I digress.
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> And in Caesar, I see Brutus as the villian. He wasn't exactly honest before luring Caesar to his death. If he isn't the villian, then he at least deserves no respect :)
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> I think Antony is much more deserving of the hero title.
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> Mi "How many 'Et tu, Brute' jokes do you know? key

But Brutus did what he did to save the people of Rome from a dictator, he agonized of the fact that the dictator was his freind, but did what he felt he must do to protect the Republic. Anthony acted on vengance and toward the end a lust for personal power (which history will show lead to his own death) Note that even after he is dead Anthony and Octavius give Brutus a soilder's honor at the end of the play.

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