> > Unlike you -- and everyone else on the planet -- I dug the Miami Vice movie.
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> It's got a 6.0 on the IMDb, which I sort of think of as the midpoint between good and bad. Rotten Tomatoes has it at 48% (although it's 68% with top critics). I agree that few hated it as much as I did, but I don't know that you have much of a case beyond that.

Hrm? I was arguing that I was seemingly the only one who liked it. That I'm in the minority, not you. I've never personally met anyone who liked it (not a good metric, but still) and I'm surprised it scored as high a 6.0 at IMDB.

> You're right that it's "essence of Mann" in terms of mood but "disconnected from the characters." You might have stumbled into why I liked The Village. It's "essence of Shyamalan, all mood and atmosphere . . . disconnected from the characters, and it's slow and plodding at times, but I still enjoyed it."

I kinda dig that. I would've thought I enjoyed boiled-down Shyamalan a lot more before I saw that movie, though.

> So maybe it's just a question of personal taste about what you like for style. I love Mann's style, but apparently not enough that it stands on its own. What I love primarily about Heat, Thief, The Insider, and even Collateral is that the struggles of the characters are palpable, and the style is used to enhance that, rather than standing on its own as the whole point of the exercise.

Completely fair. I actually think of Collateral as being very similar to Miami Vice, in that plot and character are sacrificed for mood and style. He's definitely at his best in Heat, where he has huge servings of them all.

> But you're right. The trailer probably isn't THAT reflective of the movie, so maybe I'm assuming too much about what it is.

Yeah, I think so. I could be wrong, but the marketing for QT movies is always crazy.

Stephen