You can depend on them being overtightened. My son has a solution. He needed tires on his car, so he took the wheels off leaving the car on jackstands. Then he tossed the wheels into his truck and went down to the tire store where he bought four new tires and had them mounted on the wheels and balanced. When he got home he put them on the car and torqued them to specs.
Too much trouble? Think about it.
Howard

> > Oh man, I hate hate hate hate the mechanics (seemingly all of them) that just put the lug nuts back on with an impact wrench instead of properly torquing them. THANKS GUYS! I never wanted to actually remove that tire or anything. I'm sure that when I have to change a flat, I'll also have easy access to an impact wrench and not be stuck with, say, a simple lug wrench.
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> I'm with you, Stephen. The last time I had to change a tire, I ended up having to go out and buy brand new lug nuts AND bolts for the wheel, because the nuts were on so tight that I actually twisted off a couple of the bolts in trying to get the nuts off.