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Re: FQ2 - Stuck again (HOW TO MAP THE CAVERN)
Posted By: Gees, on host 71.233.147.144
Date: Wednesday, March 7, 2007, at 17:34:48
In Reply To: Re: FQ2 - Stuck again (HOW TO MAP THE CAVERN) posted by mickyissac on Wednesday, March 7, 2007, at 17:21:32:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm on the north side of the volcano - and I can't seem to get anywhere - just keep getting scraped up - where should I go?
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11 Onions
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Crown of Destiny
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bottle Opener
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Iron Support
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rusty Key
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sack
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Float Ring
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cross
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Red Potion
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunstone
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Small Silver Coin
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sap Tap
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Coconut
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Green Potion
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Silver Key
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bucket of Sap
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pliers
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sword
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you on the other side of the volcano? I believe you left the ladder there? Right? There should be a rusty gate there. Just remember what the soothsayer said! She gave you something when you gave her that last gold coin. Use it.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've gotten through the gate and am trying use the iron support to clim up - but I keep falling.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have something missing in your inventory. Last time you posted I mentioned you needed two things in the tower. Remember what the soothsayers said? "Read everything two times". You will have to go back to the tower and find what you missed. When you get it I think you will know what to do with it. Or maybe I should say where to take it.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think that I did what I needed to do in the tower - I returned and it won't let me upstairs anymore - here is my inventory as of today
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11 Onions
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Crown of Destiny
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bottle Opener
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Iron Support
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rusty Key
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sack
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Float Ring
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cross
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Red Potion
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunstone
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Small Silver Coin
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sap Tap
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Coconut
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Green Potion
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Silver Key
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bucket of Sap
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pliers
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sword
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been on the north side of the volcano and gotten through the rusty gate but can't climb - I have been to the bog and found the platforms. Don't really know where to go right now! Thanks for your help!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Then you did find what you needed.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you find the Candy House? If so you need something else in your bucket. What would destroy a candy house. Make salt water taffy.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > Dummy me - I forgot about going back there - have the sea water - but my map is goofy and I can't find the sugar house - must be that I have too many oven memories. Hint Hint I'm off to see the witch (sung to the tune in the wizard of oz)
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> > > > > > > > > > > The Candy House is up where you used the plank to get over the bog!!! Go East. Hey there it is!!!! Hope you go the right stuff in your bucket!! You need to take something there. It will help you get up that place you keep sliding down. HINT HINT---- Sticky
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> > > > > > > > > > Wow - the giraffe is tough! I have found two entrances to the dark cavern, but I amhaving trouble mapping it and can't seem to do anything with the giraffe - I have sap in my bucket
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> > > > > > > > > Can't use the sap til you've tricked the giraffe into cornering you PAST the valley. You want to set it up so that he'll be busy to the north while you're booking it across the valley.
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> > > > > > > > > The cavern is only six rooms, and two exits. That giraffe does not know about the second exit. See where this is going?
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> > > > > > > > > Rule of thumb for mapping the cavern: If you get "You bump into a wall", there's no room in that direction.
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> > > > > > > > > Example: If you're in pitch black room A and go NORTH, the following things might happen.
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> > > > > > > > > 1) "You bump into a wall." Okay, you are still in pitch black room A, and there is a wall to the north. Try another direction.
> > > > > > > > > 2) OR Nothing changes (no wall collision). Congratulations, there was a room to the NORTH of pitch black room A and you are now in another dark room. Map it on a sheet of paper.
> > > > > > > > > 3) OR you find yourself outside. That means there was an exit to the caverns to the north of pitch black room A. Mark it on your map and go south to get back to room A and try new directions.
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> > > > > > > > > That's all there is to it.
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> > > > > > > > > -Mandi "ALWAYS look for another way up!" aka Chaos
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> > > > > > > > Completely mapped the cavern - got past the giraffe to the palace - but keep getting eaten or sent back to the green platform! Help! andthanks for all of the good advice!
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> > > > > > > "When in doubt, pour sap on the nose." And anything else you can cram its air holes with. That thing has apparently not mastered the art of breathing through its mouth. (If you don't have sap, you're going to have to go get some.)
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> > > > > > > -Mandi aka Chaos
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> > > > > > Have already done sap - a coin - lots and lots of green goo and a bucket of saltwater - he is still killing me!
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> > > > > I found this part impossible. I must have asked for hints four or five times. Mandi was patient with me. Mandi gave me a final hint that made me see things in a different light. Maybe it will help you. Get a paper and pencil. Draw three squares one on top of the other. Draw three more squares one on top of the other and put them side by side. You now have six squares. Three on the left and three on the right. Put a circle in the two center squares. One circle on the right center square and one circle on the left center square. This represents the cave. The two circles represent the exits. There are two. You need to go up the back way. Away from the giraffe. Try and find your way to the other entrance(circle). Taunt the giraffe. Go out the other exit (the one you entered first) and go around to where the giraffe is. His head is in the exit where you taunted him. He doesn't see you comming. Now you got him!!!! I hope this helps. Good Luck.
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> > > > Sorry I just checked my note it's Three squares up and three squares across. That makes nine squares not six. The exits are still center square right and center square left. The middle square in the middle of the cave. Has no exit.
> > > > Sorry about that.
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> > > Have figured out the cavern - have moved back and forth easily - have stuffed the giraffe's nose with lots of stuff - have gone past him while he is looking into the cavern - have found palace and alcove - but everytime I get to the alcove - he follows me and kills me - that is where I am stuck now - have gone through this routine with hiat least three times - so annoying! (and my cave has two vertical roles of three squares each - with the same exits you have. Thanks.
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> > I think I know what your missing. You have a small silver coin in your inventory. But did you find the other coin on the ground? At one point the game says - Pour sap on his nose and shove coin up his nose. The game will say "Look down". You find another coin. Stick that one up his
> > nose now he can't breathe out of either nostril. I think that might work.
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> aha! I will try that - verrrry tricky!

It's almost impossible to tell what someone is doing or not doing just by their inventory. That coin never shows up in the inventory because you use it right away. I spent days on the giraffe. My problem was navigating the cave. Good Luck with your future games. Remember what you think is not important is the thing that works.

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