> > > > And I'm still stuck with this frickin' "ien." Doesn't leave me with much to compete with,
> > > > does it...
> > > >
> > > > Dar "Pout, pout, whine, complain" ien
> > >
> > > So, don't use the exact center. Lots of words end with 'en'. Like 'oxen'.
> >
> > Hmm... that's possible, but... it's asymmetric... grr...
>
> You also have to find a word that starts with "Dari," so it doesn't go a long way toward solving
> your problem, anyway.

How about Da/rien? Plenty of things you can do that begin with "Da".

O' course, not a lot of them end in "rien". Time to invest in a French-English dictionary, perhaps.

Paul